At one of those life crossroads!

20 July 2010 | Category: by: John O'Shea


Well, when I quit the job just over two years ago, the plan was to give poker a lash for two and a half years. I felt that even if it didn't work out, I could return to the work-force at 25 with a masters degree, leaving me in relatively good shape for the game they call life.

The primary objective in this time was to put away enough to purchase a house and determine if I want to play poker for a living long-term. Well two and a half years later, I achieved all the financial goals that I set myself. Also in this time, poker has taken me around the world while living quite a nice lifestyle. The nature of the game means there's been a lot of highs and some very big lows but on the whole it's been a great experience and I would do it all again. However do I want to go on playing poker?

A pessimistic fucker I know once told me that everything's chance of survival goes to zero on a long enough spectrum (he is right). This can be applied to poker, as anyone's chances of sustained profitability goes to zero on a long enough spectrum.

I see so many people who were decent winners several years ago (like I am now), struggling at the game. In my short time in the game I have seen it pass so many people by, instead of realizing it, they babble on about bad luck and re-invest all their winnings on the deluded belief that they are still winners and ultimately end up broken men in every sense of the word. I think I'll be more profitable than most winning players but eventually the game will pass me by too. So how long is my spectrum before my chance of survival/profitability goes to zero? I don't know, maybe 5/8 more years!

So I have two options.

1. Give up poker and return to the real world content, that you quit while you were ahead. My mom told me this when I won my first $50k gambling - after profiting a sizeable chunk since, I'm happy I didn't take that advice and still view it as poor advice.

2. Looking at the older generation of the poker world who are still successfully involved in the game, all these people have invested their winnings into business ventures which have in turn provided them with an alternative source of income. So when poker does pass you by, you still have a steady stream of income coming in. After my first attempt in doing this (invested my first two year's winnings of some $200k in the Irish stock market, with Anglo being my primary investment). I am going to have to be a lot more prudent with any further attempts. The plan is option two.

Well, when I go back to Ireland on the 1st of August my roll is fairly depleted, as a result of a bad World Series, coupled with paying off the house and doing some home improvements, I'll be left with $30k. I didn't have to deplete my roll as much as I did but there are also other reasons I have chosen to, as well as wanting to get the house paid off. I tried not to put anything about my personal life in my blogs but in the last two years I have been playing higher and higher stakes which have seen the daily swings I take go from $5k-$50k.

The swings have got higher and so have my mood swings. There was one point there a few weeks where after eight days, playing eight hours or more a day, I was give or take a few quid level but the minimum win/loss for me in each day was $25k. At the end of the eight days it struck me, if I had just grinded 2/4-10/20 I'd have won more and be a much happier person.

When you lose large chunks of cash (of course it's all relative but I was playing outside my bankroll) you just don't feel like doing anything else but sleeping. As any player will tell you, poker lows are 10 times lower than the poker highs.

I have become more absorbed in poker and neglected other aspects of my life but it seem the more absorbed (maybe playing outside my roll with be a much better word than absorbed) I become in it, the less I enjoy playing. I certainly think by stepping down in stakes, I will be able to concentrate on the other aspects of my life which I feel I have neglected. Reading back on this, it comes across a bit depressing and sounds like I have become disillusioned with poker. That's not the case at all, it's more an observation. It's more a case as I achieved my Everest as I saw it to be 30 months ago and was kind of unsure what to set as my next one.

This resulted in me drifting like a ship lost at sea for the last two months. I know now what my next challenge will be. I have rambled on enough in this blog; the plan and how I am going to execute it will be in the next one. Off to San Diego tomorrow with eight lads of the poker lads and a couple of our normie mates so should be loose.


Comments (9)

" This resulted in me drifting like a ship lost at sea "

I'm very impressed by this

Keep up those sick rugby picks!

Hey John, Just remember not so long ago you were chip leader on the final table of the WPT final, the 2nd most prestigious event in the world!
Most TV poker is the same old (mainly Full Tilt) faces just taking turns collecting the money. The viewing public probably think all these "stars" are very profitable players when this is not the case.
Maybe you can build on your WPT appearance (not sure when it is on US TV) and try and get into some of these events. If Feldman can get onto High Stakes Poker why not you? I know who I'd rather watch.
I am sure you could find some backers, as against these guys you would be profitable.
Maybe by concentrating on building your TV profile this would allow you a more balanced life and open up other revenue opportunities.
Just some thoughts from a poker fan / observer !
Good luck whatever you do mate.

brilliant blog John. it takes balls to be so honest. It is easy to talk honestly about the good times but not so when they go against you. Pyschology and disipline seem to be the biggest opponents in poker.
Whatever you decide to do I hope its gonna be as successful as the past few years have been for you. You are lucky enough to have the choice and freedom to do whatever you want. Choose whatever you will be happiest at and no doubt you will make it a success.

very good blog,good to read a honest, realistic account of gambling/poker life.
what if you did over the past year or so grind out 2/4 to 10/20 do you think you would have made the ft of the wpt,also the bet you did in the rugby (ireland v australia)where you lost about 25k,do you think this affected your over all thinking.i'm not a pro or nothing like it,but would be interested in your opinion.best of luck what ever you decide
btw couldnt agree more with darrens assessment of most of these so called "poker stars"

Brave and honest as ever John

cheers lads appreciate all the good advice

Looking forward to a happier john O' shea then.
Nice honest blog with great insights into the world of the professional poker player.

GL john with whatever you decide to do.

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